Nick Denton Is A Genius

February 11, 2011 in Gawker

That’s the only conclusion I can come up with at the moment. Nick Denton is a genius. I’ll forever stand by that statement. I base my statement – that Nick Denton is a genius – on the wealth of responses to the most recent re-design of Gawker and all other GawkerMedia sites. Nick Denton is a genius, and if you don’t understand why, then you’ve simply yet to catch up and realize the genius of Nick Denton.

I’ll say it again. Nick Denton? Genius.

Have you heard about this? It’s been going on for a week, even though it was predicted by the genius that is Nick Denton last November. Well, if you haven’t heard about this, let me fill you in. Apparently, a lot of people don’t like the re-design of Gawker. And a lot of people who read Gawker are making their feelings known about New Gawker. They are angry about it.

Very.

Unfortunately for these people who don’t like New Gawker, I have to point out the fact that Nick Denton – the publisher – doesn’t care what you think.

Because Nick Denton is a genius. And you aren’t.

I mean – complain all you want about New Gawker. Comment about it on Gawker all you want, especially about how much you hate New Gawker. Visit Gawker to read all the hatred about New Gawker, leave a comment about how much you hate New Gawker, then come back and see if someone replied to your comment about how much you hate New Gawker, how they agreed with you about how much they hate New Gawker too and what they added to your comment about hating New Gawker. They’ll tell you how much they hate New Gawker too. Then you can reply to their comment about New Gawker, because they’re surely sitting refreshing the page and waiting for the AJAX script to produce your reply about how much you hate New Gawker too.

Just like you are.

Keep complaining on Gawker about New Gawker.

Moan about New Gawker on Twitter too. Start a thread on Facebook to complain about New Gawker. Talk about New Gawker, get people to visit Gawker so they too can see how terrible New Gawker is. Perhaps they’ll leave a comment on Gawker about how you were right about New Gawker being terrible.

Start a campaign on Facebook to get Gawker changed back to “Classic Gawker”. Make your voice heard with the click of a mouse. Keep checking Gawker to see if Nick has decided to change things back.

If he hasn’t, keep your hatred alive.

Keep commenting on Gawker about how much you hate New Gawker. About how much Gawker means to you, and because it means so much to you, you feel compelled to write about how much you hate the re-design of Gawker, on Gawker.

Have You Heard About Gawker?

Let me begin by reminding you of the raison d’etre behind Gawker. It’s the same as it’s ever been, even with a re-design.

It’s about making money.

It makes money by people visiting it. These are called “page-views”. The more page-views Gawker gets, the more money it can make from advertising.

Every time you comment on Gawker about how much you hate New Gawker, and every time someone visits to see your comment about your hatred of New Gawker, Gawker makes more money.

Your hatred of New Gawker is very profitable to Gawker.

If your site is advertising supported, page-views are king and queen. Page-views are the entire royal family, plus their pets. Page-views are how you pay the hosting bills, how you pay the writers, how you pay for exclusives and eventually how you pay your rent.

Nick Denton always wants more page-views.

This is not an exclusive.

Forget the actual content of Gawker for a moment (I’ll come to that later) what I want to tackle is the admittedly strange layout none of you seem to understand. Sadly, if you’re reading this there’s a high chance that you’re not Nick Denton, so I’ll explain it quickly and simply so it gets through your thick head, because you’re obviously not a genius like Nick patently is.

If you’re confused over the new layout of Gawker, and are spending a lot of time on Gawker looking for the stuff that was more “findable” last week, well it’s pretty obvious -  the new layout means more money.

We’re witnessing a new paradigm in blogging. Actually making it more difficult to find content.

It’s a stroke of genius. Well, unless you still read Gawker. If you were a genius you wouldn’t be reading Gawker.

You’d be running Gawker.

Yet again – like the last re-design seizure-a-thon – New Gawker has its detractors. Detractors meaning “everyone else apart from Nick Denton”. Nick loves it. Nick knows what he’s doing, because Nick is successful and makes enough money on the web to actually pay his writers, which is still a rarity (this site being a case in point – we pay in love and sexual favors). I’m sure Nick has went through months of usability testing, load-testing and balancing, matching his content delivery network to daily, if not hourly, requirements. I mean – if we remember recent Classic Gawker history, we know Nick places the utmost importance in how Gawker functions from a technical standpoint, such as basic password security. The latest re-design is no different.

Nick knows what he’s doing.

Although Nick Denton is a genius and I am not, my under-developed intellectual capabilities have spurred me to make some criticisms, I mean – Wordsmoker isn’t perfect, but I’ve spent a lot of time and no little amount of kind people’s cash in getting it close to where I want it, visually speaking, even though I’m not a genius like Nick is. I’d say Wordsmoker is more than readable in its minimalist way, and I’d like to think I know something about how content is presented to readers, which I now see is a major failing of my own doing.

I can only apologize to everyone who visits, or will visit, Wordsmoker.

Anyway. Some criticisms, just like I promised. Even though Nick is an obvious genius, allow me to nitpick some minor points about New Gawker. It’s probably best that I list them here, as opposed to writing about them on Gawker. I mean – every time someone complains on Gawker about New Gawker is just makes more money for Nick, doesn’t it? And if you don’t like New Gawker so much – well – that’s maybe the last thing you should do.

So – where do I begin with the design of New Gawker?

Was Nick Denton Framed?

First of all – New Gawker seems to be using frames. I don’t know this for a fact, but I can only base this on what New Gawker looks like, how it behaves, and what it looks like and how it behaves makes me believe it’s using frames. Why do I keep mentioning “frames”? Because “frames” are about the last thing you want to use on a website. Well, at least since 1998, that is. Frames are just the worst thing ever. Frames split a normal webpage into two (or three, or whatever) with one portion controlling navigation, the other handling copy. Frames suck because if they’re implemented badly, they can really screw up your viewing. They can slow down your browser, ratchet up the CPU cycles, produce stuttering text and images as you scroll up or down, and generally just piss you off with how unprofessional everything appears. On the few times I’ve visited New Gawker this week, I’ve noticed this – either during scrolling a main article or trying to scroll the navigation panel on the left. I’m running a 3.2Ghz Dual Core PC with 4Gb of ram and a 1Gb video card here – it can handle Crysis at high settings.

It can barely handle New Gawker.

Both cores of my CPU jump to 90% when scrolling using either Firefox or Chrome. Do I hear you say “big deal”? Maybe. But any – any – site that uses up this amount of CPU cycles is the product of really bad coding and testing. And Jeebus help you if you’re reading New Gawker on a laptop or netbook. Just watch your remaining battery power enjoy that, not to mention the life-cycle of your CPU, or the cooling required for the extra effort in what is still just “reading a blog”.

Yeah – that’s right. Nick Denton is exacerbating global warming too.

I’d also hate to think what the response is like on whatever underpowered Apple fondle-slab it seems to have been formatted for.

To be honest, I think the bottom “frame” is the major culprit. The “Next Post” thing?

Those rarely work well. In any browser. It’s now down to the developers at Mozilla, Google, Microsoft and Apple to catch up with Nick’s demands.

Nick is changing the internet.

Who’s Writing What Now?

I mean – this is really comical. And by comical, I mean “insane”.

I can’t tell who’s writing now.

For some reason (probably in terms of screen real-estate, because of the huge body column) it’s impossible to tell who has written what by looking at the navigation panel on the right. God help you if you had a favorite writer or writers. Personally I love Jim Newell and Richard Lawson’s work, but from now on it’s subtle guesswork as to who has written anything until you click on the title. A title that really doesn’t give much away because, well – it’s a title. So – expect more lurid titles to be the order of the day on New Gawker, something to actually get you to click on an article.

This goes back to my previous point – I really think Nick wants you to just wander about New Gawker, clicking on random articles in the hope that one of them are what you thought you were looking for in the first place. Again – genius!

Honestly – if I was a Gawker writer, I’d be really pissed at this. You’re now a little part of a homogeneous mass of titles. Well – there goes that individual voice you spent developing for so long. Enjoy!

Area Man Opens Eyes, Is Amazed At Photographs

I was a print journalist and then a blogger. I dealt in words, few of them read, even fewer moving. And it’s taken me this long to realize that we live in a visual culture. The words are so much more potent when they’re harnessed to graphics, images and video. That’s why we made the new Gawker.

That’s Nick’s reasoning (today) for the huge body column. So it can feature big photographs, I think. Is Nick saying that no-one read anything he wrote because it was shit? I don’t understand this phrase, but again – Nick Denton is a genius – and it’s obvious to me that I don’t understand this because I’m not one. Problems with this, there are many, list them I shall.

  • No-one visits Gawker for the photography. No-one will. It’s a gossip site.
  • I’ve yet to hear anyone Like or re-Tweet “Wow, did you see that photo on Gawker?”. I don’t think I ever will.
  • Unless one of Travolta’s kids dies again, where they can feature a big picture of the child’s chin as evidence of fuck-all.
  • Or maybe an Apple exec happens to be gay. Then they can out him in much better detail.
  • Or maybe some flavor-of-the-moment wingnut didn’t have sex ten years ago. We can see her huge, hairy vagina.
  • Or Denton’s checkbook journalism can buy a picture of some celeb vomiting on another – we can look at that while Nick pretends he’s above TMZ.
  • If I want to see exciting photography, I go to xHamster.com and click on “Photos” like everyone else.

Another issue with the larger body copy “frame” – it screws with your actual reading of the copy. Do you know this? Maybe you do. I do. It’s the reason the center panel on Wordsmoker is the size that it is. Anything larger than that, coupled with a post running over 300 words, and your eyes begin to tire immediately. They expend more effort in scanning from left to right while you’re reading. It’s the reason that newspaper columns are the size that they are. It’s the reason that the tawdry yet sexually exciting novel you’ve got beside your bed is the size it is. I mean – Nick’s an ex dead-tree man – surely he knows this?

Of course he does. Nick Denton is a genius.

He’s actually making our eyes evolve after millenia of reading things “easily”.

Nick Hates Commenters, Comments, And Those Who Write Them, Read Them

It’s no surprise to find out that Nick really doesn’t like commenters. He barely puts up with them. Commenters – to Nick (a genius) – are a necessary evil. He’d probably ban every single one of them if he could, just for an easy life. Let’s face it – the previous Gawker re-design before this, he did all he could to hide practically every comment across GawkerMedia. Unless you were “starred”, you barely featured. I guess this was okay, but it turned out that after you stuck around for long enough you’d eventually get your little urine-colored star, so your inane bullshit would show up anyway. If that wasn’t enough, in a sort of Typographical Thunderdome arena death-match, you could “promote” someone else’s comment up a list or something.

To be honest, I’d left before this pseudo-socialist experiment got underway, and I still don’t understand it because I’m old and not a genius. There’s hundreds of comments on Nick’s video “response” to the latest bout of criticism. I can only see about 20, even when I click on “All”.

Nick doesn’t want you reading comments. He wants you to jump to the next post like a good little Pavlovian reader. He doesn’t want you scrolling down, or checking your responses on the same page, because that doesn’t count as another page-view, and if he doesn’t get another page-view then he doesn’t make money.

Your comments have literally no value.

Gawker Commenters Were Better In My Day, Now Get Off My Lawn

I was lucky to be a commenter during the period of Lolcait. As he blossomed from working on Gawker’s sales-desk to become a fully-fledged writer du jour with an obvious gift. It was a happy time. You’d visit Gawker for the comments alone. They actually made you laugh. People appeared to actually think and take time with their bon mots. There was a lot of pithiness. A lot of snark, and well-deserved snark at that. People enjoyed getting one-up on each other, and in the best possible sense. Memes were born and blossomed, too many to mention here.

Then Nick spread open Gawker’s legs and let Facebook Connect ride it senseless. And into even more profitability.

If you can actually find a comment worth reading these days, I salute you. Yes – you may think I’m being old and cranky and filled with nicotine and nostalgia, but I know I’m right. You may be reading this and be an actual current commenter and disagree wholeheartedly with what I say. To which I reply – Nick whored-out Gawker to Facebook because he wanted more page-views, and it’s obvious to anyone that the quality of comments became diluted. He wanted it to be as easy as possible for as many people as possible to comment, because if you comment you’re more likely to return to see if anyone replied to your comment, no matter how poor or banal your comment originally was.

You may think that your comment (and your friend’s comments) are exempt from this.

Of course you do.

Darling – the level of commenting on Gawker these days is pretty much YouTube-standards compared to two or three years ago. At least on YouTube I can find the comments and they appear in something resembling order. If you want good GawkerMedia comments, you have to look either at Jezebel or Deadspin. And then you have to spend time sorting the wheat from the faff. The supposed “flagship” of GawkerMedia – Gawker itself – has one captain and far too many people screaming about nothing below the waterline.

In a way, it’s probably best that you can’t see them all.

Again. Genius.

So Many, Many, Posts – So Few Worth Reading

Remember the time when there were maybe about 15 posts daily max? Those days? When it was actually worthwhile reading nearly every one? You had Choire and Sheila and Balk and you were there, and you were there too, and you were there Tin Man and Toto was too, and it was magical.

People actually seemed to be writing about what they wanted to write about, and it showed in terms of quality.

I can’t even tell how many posts there are on Gawker daily now. What is it? At least 20?

30?

It works, though. Because Nick Denton is a genius.

More posts daily means more times you have to go back or refresh the site. Who knows what might be published! I mean – forget the actual quality of the post, or the salaciousness of the content, or the fact that it’s a 200 word aggregation piece about something noticed by someone on Buzzfeed or Urlesque which was originally written by someone else then re-Tweeted or noted on Tumblr and then picked up by Google Reader

The title on the right-hand side is all that matters. That buys your page-view. That buys Nick a pad next to Samuel L. Jackson.

The Stolen Phone Excuse

I had to laugh about Nick’s other reasoning for the change in design. Remember that time that guy received stolen goods – it was a phone or something – and the guy started filming himself with the phone, and everybody started visiting the Gawker off-shoot to see the stolen phone, and the guy was holding up the stolen phone and showing it off and everybody looked at the guy and the phone, even though the phone wasn’t switched on or anything and then this became one of the many reasons why humanity is doomed, because hundreds of thousands of people visited a web site to look at a phone and they all talked about the phone on the web site because it was a new phone?

Remember that?

One of Nick’s reasons for the latest design-fuck is that he was annoyed that more posts were posted on that day, you know – the day everybody visited that site to look at the new stolen phone with the guy holding it up and all that – and that these lowlier posts pushed the post about the new phone down the page and off it after a day or so of people visiting the site to see the new phone?

That’s complete bullshit.

I could make this post about how Nick Denton is a genius stay at the top of Wordsmoker for eternity if I like. It’s really easy. Anyone who runs a site like either Wordsmoker or Gawker only had to tick “Stick this post to the front page” and it will stay there no matter how many posts are written about new phones or hairy vaginas or dead Travoltas.

This fact is about the only thing that doubts my theory that Nick Denton is a genius. The only way I can comprehend my own doubt is that Nick was given erroneous information by one of his many, many highly-skilled website technicians.

Come to think of it, they were maybe distracted by having to re-hash all those passwords a while back. So, I’ll forgive this lapse in honesty.

Simple mistake.

What The HuffPo Buyout Tells Us About Gawker

Maybe Nick Denton (who by now, you have to admit, is a genius) is looking to do an Arianna? Get a larger corporation with a silly amount of money coupled with real panic in their corporate soul that they’re being left behind like atheist dogs during The Rapture to buy him out while he retains editorial control of the content?

Are News Corporation circling GawkerMedia?

I really wouldn’t bet against it.

Murdoch had a good year, profits are up, and he does tend to put money where people who actually read the web tend to tell him, even though it’s failed so far. A lot of web properties are valued through the roof at the moment. For the life of me I can’t see why Facebook and Twitter are valued as much as they are right now, and it smells like another AOL-bubble. My thoughts on this are truly beside any point I’m making, but the comparisons are there to be made:

  • Both sites have an overwhelming array of stories carefully punctuated by celebrity nonsense so you can feel better about yourself as you pretend you’re reading something better than TMZ or Perez Hilton.
  • Both sites are really painful to look at, with HuffPo’s mish-mash of color and text-plops and frenzied share-buttons possibly being an actual offense under the Geneva Convention.
  • Both sites were born and are currently edited by non-American “outsiders” with dead-tree experience.
  • Both editors are really convincing when pitching stuff to potential investors. It’s the funny accents.
  • Neither of them are me.

At time of writing, the only way Nick will change his mind over New Gawker is if potential investors (or buyer-outers) really take into consideration the depth and anger at the re-design from commenters and readers. Nick can easily dismiss the vitriol himself – it’s a lot more difficult when the people asking the questions wear bespoke suits and have money in their back pockets.

Ergo – if the design changes back considerably, there’s something afoot. Nick will win anyway – don’t worry about that. He’s a businessman way before he’s an editor now, and all good business people are pragmatic to a sociopathic degree when it comes to money – successful capitalism depends upon it. Nick is no different.

Apart from the fact that Nick is a genius and a lot of other people aren’t.

In Summary – Nick Denton Is A Genius

Nick Denton – a genius – has somehow worked out that the time you spend searching for actual content to read on New Gawker equals more page-views. The more time you spending guessing who wrote what by scanning the sidebar, the more time you’ll spend there, which equals more page-views. Even if you’re scratching your head and cursing at your desk, it will mean more page-views. The more you complain, the more page-views. The more hatred, page-views. Anger? Page-views. And you?

You’re a page-view.

Let’s End 4000 Words About Gawker, Shall We?

It should be mentioned – rather brutally at that – if you’re spending all your time moaning about New Gawker on forums or on Twitter or even on Facebook – please, check yourself. No-one cares apart from you and your co-haters. The only place that cares about your hatred of New Gawker is Gawker itself, and not for the reasons you think of.

Remember that? The page-views thing?

Otherwise you’re venting into the ether and the only reply is the sound of your own shared opinion. Nick Denton doesn’t care. Nick will never care.

You hating the re-design so much is actually making Nick happy.

If you’re so upset, so vivid over the re-design of a website, then go start your own. Make it look the way you want it. Myself and around 20 other ex-commenters started their own place – this place back in December 2008. It wasn’t over some lame re-design – it was over the editorial direction and staffing. It’s much better to put the energy and time you spend in moaning about something that’s not really important into something that at least is creatively rewarding. It doesn’t have to be financially rewarding if you’ve got enough friends. Writing is fun! Getting people to write something – people who’ve never written anything before – is possibly the best reward there is.

I don’t give a shit what you think about this place. I like it. And I like the people on it.

Give me this place over any flavor of Gawker, any day.

Listen – current crop of Gawker-haters – no-one sticks around Gawker for long. They hive off and do it themselves, because doing it yourself is more fun, let’s face it. Besides Wordsmoker, you’ve got The Awl and now Crasstalk. If you look at Crasstalk in particular, it’s got the same genetic code as here – disaffected people who begin moaning about Gawker off-line, then get tired of moaning about Gawker off-line, and come to the decision that the way ahead is down to themselves, and themselves only.

And good luck to them. Good luck to anyone doing that.

Honestly. Forget about Gawker.

I won’t say it forgot about you long ago, because you never mattered really.

For the final time. Nick Denton is a genius.

Mostly because your stupidity is making him look like one.

© Wordsmoker – Intermittently Laughing At Gawker Since 2008

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/hydroceph/ Hydroceph

    “this site being a case in point – we pay in love and sexual favors.”

    I’m still waiting, bitch.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/berightback/ berightback

    I love this internet history stuff. And you are 100% right about the whole thing. But I will refrain from calling you a genius. That term seems a little loaded.

    Can we go back to calling him Alan now?

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Hc204XVNA&playnext=1&list=PLBE5CA8EBDBB1FAB1

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/hydroceph/ Hydroceph

    You also left out the part about where the old New Gawker, as opposed to this new New Gawker, told us when people had replied to our comments, which had us, or at least me, feverishly reloading the page to see if someone–anyone–would validate our weary, pathetic existences by replying to our comments. The new New Gawker has freed me from this tyranny.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

    What is this Gawker I keep hearing people talk about?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/scienceissexy/ science is sexy

    @ Hydroceph:
    Hydro! I miss you

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/nodebutante/ NoDebutante

    Nick Denton is such a genius that I’ve looked at Gawker once this last week and then, like Hydro, felt freed from the spell, because it’s useless to me now. It’s about as relevant and exciting as the classified section of our village dead-tree weekly.

    I get so much more pleasure out of Wordsmoker and Crasstalk and one or two other places where I see familiar faces.

    I don’t give a shit what you think about this place. I like it. And I like the people on it.

    Give me this place over any flavor of Gawker, any day.

    I like this place, too. Thanks for letting me in.

    XOXO
    ~NoDeb

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/maelstrom/ Maelstrom

    So then the question really becomes when do you finally break the ties that bind and delete your old Gawker commenting account? Me personally, I have the page open to the delete instructions and have yet to pull the plug in hopes of seeing Souplines once more before I go, while I also worry that if I don’t do it soon, the option may be gone if the Gawk gets sold.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    I must say as well – if anyone is yet to receive their love and/or sexual favors, then I think you should contact FedEx and UPS as these were shipped out to you over a year ago.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/spiritfingers4u/ Spirit Fingers

    Hey, Virus.

    You’ve given me something to think about.

    Loved this! Thanks!

    Spirit

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/smitros/ smitros

    Lolcait was a dude, right?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misspeacock/ MissPeacock

    Re: the quality of commenters on Gawker:

    Seriously, if *I* have a star on Gawker, you know things have gone downhill.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    If my experience has taught me anything, Crystal Gawker should be introduced to the market any day now. Then Coca Cola will come out with their version.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/waspy/ Lisa VonTress

    @ MissPeacock:
    First time here and this article is very illuminating. I hope I do learn how to write better. It’s great that you encourage people to write. I see many familiar names here that come to think of it, I haven’t seen several of them in crosstalk lately. I’m on crasstalk too, so I think these two sites will keep me busy.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unclebillyslumming/ Uncle_Billy_Slumming

    @ smitros:

    I don’t know. I do know that I’m neither Minsley Tortimer nor American Dreamer. I’m concentrating on a different problem right now: Does Agnes Crane have a crush on Felix Salmon?

    http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/02/11/housing-talk/

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    If by “genius” you mean “dick” then yeah. I guess Nick Denton is a “genius.”

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    Did you all see the picture of Julian Assange with the caption “DADDY”? Visually stunning. I didn’t even bother reading the article.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/renesance/ Rene Sance

    smitros wrote:

    Lolcait was a dude, right?

    A Smokie for smitros, please. For the pleasant memories if nothing else.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    Seconded on the Smokie nom for Smitros.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misspeacock/ MissPeacock

    @ Lisa VonTress:
    Welcome! Now get to writing up somethin’ purty for us to read.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bbqcornnuts/ bbqcornnuts

    @ Hydroceph:
    Hydro!!! Que Pasa?

    I feel like I’ve been released from probation. I don’t need to check in to see if my comments were noticed. It’s very freeing.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    I don’t recognize everyone’s monikers here. Who is approving all of these comments?

    @ Rene Sance & @ BJonston: Noted. Although Smokies are now going to elevate some people above the others in the new Wordsmoker, so you may want to be careful. As things stand, Smitros is a level five commenter. If he gets two more Smokies, he can leapfrog to level eight and thereby acquire commenter invincibility powers. It’s all going to mapped out in the new Wordsmoker. Genius approved.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston
  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

    @ Chillbear Latrigue:
    How long before we start measuring original page hits?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/don-is/ don is

    “I’d also hate to think what the response is like on whatever underpowered Apple fondle-slab it seems to have been formatted for.”

    I made the mistake of viewing New Gawker on my iPhone and it completely drained my battery three days in the past!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bbqcornnuts/ bbqcornnuts

    4,000 word articles? Totally ridiculous. It’s practically a book. Can you convert this to a series of PowerPoint slides for me? (Which by the way, is what Gawker looks like to me now. I’ve attended enough corporate presentations. I’m not doing it in my free time).

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/hydroceph/ Hydroceph

    @ science is sexy:
    I show up every once in a while. Like a bad penny, you’ll never really be rid of me.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/hydroceph/ Hydroceph

    @ VirusWithShoes:
    What can Brown do for you?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/berightback/ berightback

    @ Hydroceph: I hadn’t figured you to be into scat play. Not that I’m judging! I’d be the last to poo-poo anyone’s avenues of fulfillment.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    All you guys are keeping Wordsmoker in a ghetto.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Weegee\’s Bored wrote:

    All you guys are keeping Wordsmoker in a ghetto.

    Sincerely, American Dreamer

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dahlelama/ DahlELama

    First of all, I’m owed sexual favors for at least three articles, so let’s not pretend that this site is all that. Second of all, this site is all that AND a bag of chips. Hi guys!

    For realsies, I’m so, so tired of people not understanding how much they (we) don’t matter to Denton. I don’t know who ever told the entire commentariat as a whole that we did, but everyone seems to have gotten that idea in their heads based on absolutely nothing. I’m actually embarrassed for a large number of commenters I’ve seen airing their grievances. On the bright side, hopefully it’ll drag my ass here more often. Well, that’s the bright side for me, anyway. For those who might not like me, this just got awkward.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    I’ll be happy to help anyone out who wants/needs sexual favors. Anyone?

    Hello?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/nodebutante/ NoDebutante

    BJonston wrote:

    I’ll be happy to help anyone out who wants/needs sexual favors. Anyone?
    Hello?

    You rang?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/berightback/ berightback

    @ DahlELama: Yay! NOW WRITE SUMPTIN’ HERE. Wait, I mean…why don’t you grace us with some prose, when you feel like it?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    What the… This post is still on top? Did Wences teach you some of his computer demonry?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/berightback/ berightback

    @ Chillbear Latrigue: “I could make this post about how Nick Denton is a genius stay at the top of Wordsmoker for eternity if I like.” Sounds like a threat/promise to me!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/haysifantayzee/ HaysiFantayzee

    Oh hai. Brand-new Wordsmoker here. I just want to say you are so right about movin’ on. It’s true about so many things. Gawker was fun while it lasted. Netflix did something similar to its “Friends” feature about six months ago. I wrote hundreds of reviews over 10 years. I had “friends” and followers. One day they decided to de-emphasize their member reviews and remove most “community” functionality. Poof. Gone.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    Chillbear Latrigue wrote:

    What the… This post is still on top? Did Wences teach you some of his computer demonry?

    I went through with my threat. It’s staying there until The New Yorker quotes it. Almost in full.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dahlelama/ DahlELama

    By the way, I was thinking about this the other day but couldn’t figure out where to mention it, and this seems like the perfect place: WordSmoker=best redesign of all the redesigns.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dahlelama/ DahlELama

    @ berightback: Oh dear, I would love to write something, but OH MY GOD I AM SO BORING. Seriously, I have nothing to write about. The closest thing to something of interest that’s happened to me lately is that my boobs destroyed multiple articles of clothing in the last month.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/whyamihere/ WhyamIhere?

    @Dahl: We, and by that I mean I, would love to read about your boobs.

    Actually, I’ll bet Virus, Chillbear, BJonston without an H, and probably some others would love to read about it too.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/senorwences/ Senor Wences

    One of the key things that, yeah, was just striking right away was the whole not knowing who the fuck wrote what. Fuck the commenters, that strip mall hasn’t had “commenters” since forever ago, but now it shits on their own writers to a degree that makes firing Sheila seem like a kiss and a hug? Makes the writers anonymous to anyone visiting the page?

    Not sure why Lawson left that TV schedule website, or whatever the fuck that was he went to for five minutes, but am pretty sure it wasn’t to come back to THIS. Fellah can just leap right outta Gawker plenty easy and land wherever the fuck he pleases. Newell, too, yep. Hamilton. Really, ALL of them can write their own ticket elsewhere, and will.

    So, off they go. Just watch.

    Or don’t. Really, the site is 100% ignorable right now. I keep meaning to tell them to quit sending me the stupid daily email I get that I only signed up for hoping to win an iPad, but I can’t be bothered to even do that, so I just mark it as spam.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVit7cesj8

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Senor Wences wrote:

    One of the key things that, yeah, was just striking right away was the whole not knowing who the fuck wrote what. Fuck the commenters, that strip mall hasn’t had “commenters” since forever ago, but now it shits on their own writers to a degree that makes firing Sheila seem like a kiss and a hug? Makes the writers anonymous to anyone visiting the page?

    Not sure why Lawson left that TV schedule website, or whatever the fuck that was he went to for five minutes, but am pretty sure it wasn’t to come back to THIS. Fellah can just leap right outta Gawker plenty easy and land wherever the fuck he pleases. Newell, too, yep. Hamilton. Really, ALL of them can write their own ticket elsewhere, and will.

    So, off they go. Just watch.

    Or don’t. Really, the site is 100% ignorable right now. I keep meaning to tell them to quit sending me the stupid daily email I get that I only signed up for hoping to win an iPad, but I can’t be bothered to even do that, so I just mark it as spam.

    True that. The staff writers we loved and who, remarkably, are still there have one hell of a clip file and can find other vineyards in which to toil. Well, maybe after a bit more economic recovery.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    DahlELama wrote:

    @ berightback: Oh dear, I would love to write something, but OH MY GOD I AM SO BORING. Seriously, I have nothing to write about. The closest thing to something of interest that’s happened to me lately is that my boobs destroyed multiple articles of clothing in the last month.

    Boobs = page-views.

    DO IT.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/bookishlookish/ BookishLookish

    Pardon me for saying so, and so unartfully, but it’s Virus who’ the genius.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/spiritfingers4u/ Spirit Fingers

    @ Senor Wences: In the world populated by Denton, starring Denton, produced and directed by Denton, I think everyone is expendable. So what if his most talented writers leave him…like any good bloated dictator he’ll just screech “They’re just ungrateful! Anyone would be so lucky to have a job working for me! I love me! I’m a God! Jesus was just a carpenter. I own pageviews…don’t you get it?!”

    There is nothing left at that fucking gutted husk of a website.

    Denton has truly just totally sold the complete shit down the river in hopes some lapsed online presence…(I don’t know, what the hell is CompuServe doing in 2011?) can gather their druthers, and whatever shiny sixpence they still have saved in a knitting bag tucked away in the attic of 1997, to buy him out so he can go fuck a goat on his own private island east of Paraguay or something.

    And really, now he’s unstarring commenters for mentioning Wordsmoker or Crasstalk. What a dick.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    Spirit Fingers wrote:

    And really, now he’s unstarring commenters for mentioning Wordsmoker or Crasstalk. What a dick.

    Is this true and what’s the place to go over there and lose my star? Mine was given to me by Cajun Boy, who was sacked almost immediately after.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/kitten-witawip-2/ Kitten Witawip

    Thanks for all the explanations. I thought something was wrong with my computer. It kept slowing down to a crawl every time I attempted to read Gawker. Also I could only new post comments, I could never reply to any existing comments.

    To sum it all up, slow to load, memory hog, difficult to read, impossible to navigate and poor commenting capabilities. So what is the draw?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/spiritfingers4u/ Spirit Fingers

    @ Chillbear Latrigue: I don’t know if there’s an official place. I know it happened on that “Denton shows the world his visual penis and everyone barfed” video post. But perhaps just on any one of them say, “Everybody! There’s good times, fun people, and perhaps the unveiling of boobs going on over on Wordsmoker! And Crasstalk is a nice little place to share a lemon square and lift your formerly oppressed fists in solidarity!”

    I think that should really do it.

    The PR is great for both sites, though, but to unstar a commenter who mentions the obvious is just insecure and silly…well, to a possibly threatened (Genius) wannabe media mogul, that is. Heh.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/xylo/ Xylo

    Oh, nonono. I haven’t complained about Gawker once, anywhere. Heaven forbid.
    But my computer and its processor hates, hates, hates, hates it. So I guess that’s that.

    “HuffPo’s mish-mash of color and text-plops and frenzied share-buttons possibly being an actual offense under the Geneva Convention.”
    Bad website as torture. I love this.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/whyamihere/ WhyamIhere?

    I didn’t read gawker; I found wordsmoker via Chillbear. Until I read this, I always thought his name was Alan.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/pikadar/ PikaDar

    Ian Speigleman rides again (not sure if the link will work):

    “Hey, I know there are shades of gray in all this. But I’m kind of through with gray after the last two years. Anyone who hurts, embarrasses, or weakens anyone with a lot of money or political/corporate clout can do almost no wrong in my book. I’d fucking love some class warfare. How can I go wrong when the only people not getting painfully fucked are the top 2%?

    So charge on, Anonymous”

    http://valleywag.gawker.com/#!5758753/anonymous-hackers-launch-wikileaks-for-normal-people?comment=36990745:36990745

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/pikadar/ PikaDar

    And dang if I didn’t leave out the rest.

    “But if you ever feel the need to give Nick another smacking–he wants nothing more than to be next Murdoch, and has no human emotions–please do it with his personal crap? A lot of innocent people without much money scurry around here and give it much more value than it would have if the only writing were by the writers. You could totally leave the rest of us out it. Something tells me Nick’s left quite a snail-trail on the nets. Remy, too, that wily snot. No reason to bring us down with them. (Edit comment) “

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/gerbilsinlove/ gerbilsinlove

    So, after nine days of no computer, I finally get one, and the learning curve is a little steep for me, a noted tech-challenged idiot, to learn this laptop thing. I go to catch up on things, like Gawker, and the damn thing actually powers off! WTF? At least now I know why. So much happened in the past nine days, like the New Gawker, new WS commenters, newnewnew…I’m losing my mind, and I don’t need Gawker to push it along any further, thanks. Hey, y’all!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/nimabu/ Nimabu

    I’m a lowly unstarred over at Gawker, and although my comments wouldn’t get promoted all the time, at least I didn’t feel like I was commenting to the void. Nowadays, you are lucky if people even comment on a story, let along promote you. Still, I hadn’t thought about the issue like you present it here: by making the site more difficult, he’s not only frustrating us, but making us go clickety click all over his site (and the Canadian and UK counterparts), which makes him more money, and thus sends the opposite message. Clickety click does not translate to “this sucks” to Nick Denton.

    I have to say, I’m going to miss Gawker (and maybe Jezebel, although I get pissed off at their total hypocrisy) because even though I wasn’t around for the “good times” as you remember them, I would always read some insightful or funny comments in that site. No matter what you can say about the comments at Gawker and Co., they would always beat reading the news from a news site and the horrendous comments that would follow. So even though I wasn’t actually reading “the news” by visiting Gawker, the commenters would discuss the actual article with objectivity (or snarkiness) instead of talking about impeaching Obama, or spewing some ignorant or racist bullshit.

    So now I’m in search for new niche on the Internet since I’m new to this whole internet community thing, but I hope that in the new one I find the cool kids don’t mind mingling with the unpopular kids that much.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Nimabu wrote:

    I’m a lowly unstarred over at Gawker, and although my comments wouldn’t get promoted all the time, at least I didn’t feel like I was commenting to the void. Nowadays, you are lucky if people even comment on a story, let along promote you. Still, I hadn’t thought about the issue like you present it here: by making the site more difficult, he’s not only frustrating us, but making us go clickety click all over his site (and the Canadian and UK counterparts), which makes him more money, and thus sends the opposite message. Clickety click does not translate to “this sucks” to Nick Denton.

    I have to say, I’m going to miss Gawker (and maybe Jezebel, although I get pissed off at their total hypocrisy) because even though I wasn’t around for the “good times” as you remember them, I would always read some insightful or funny comments in that site. No matter what you can say about the comments at Gawker and Co., they would always beat reading the news from a news site and the horrendous comments that would follow. So even though I wasn’t actually reading “the news” by visiting Gawker, the commenters would discuss the actual article with objectivity (or snarkiness) instead of talking about impeaching Obama, or spewing some ignorant or racist bullshit.

    So now I’m in search for new niche on the Internet since I’m new to this whole internet community thing, but I hope that in the new one I find the cool kids don’t mind mingling with the unpopular kids that much.

    Well, you’re with the cool kids now. Hang out with us here and/ or find us on Facebook. We’re all over there, mostly under the same names. Welcome to the party.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Okay, Virus et al, I hereby cave. Upon further examination and with expenditure of effort almost equal to that spent worrying that the formula for Coke had leaked, I agree with y’all (lame Atlanta reference). The new Gawker sucks. I’m outta there.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/berightback/ berightback

    @ Nimabu: Honestly, there are so many generations of Gawker commentariat here, not to mention the healthy contingent of people who’ve heard of or cared about Gawker, that you can just assume that most of us have no idea who’s cool, who’s not, or where you might fit in. Just read and write and be merry!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    @Nimabu: I totally forgot about the whole “promotion” of comments bullshit over at Gawker. What pompous arrogant bullshit. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped hanging out over there in the first place.

    And welcome to Wordsmoker, by the way. You just stumbled into the coolest corner of the internets. Please hang out and write or comment away.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/berightback/ berightback

    berightback wrote:

    @ Nimabu: Honestly, there are so many generations of Gawker commentariat here, not to mention the healthy contingent of people who’ve heard of or cared about Gawker, that you can just assume that most of us have no idea who’s cool, who’s not, or where you might fit in. Just read and write and be merry!

    …..who’ve NEVER heard of….

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/blix/ Blix

    @ Nimabu:
    Wha, there are cool kids in here? This is a total breach of security!
    ps, Welcome.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    @ Nimabu: Welcome!!! I’m going to pretend to be the welcome wagon lady and ask, no beg, you to write a 20 Things for Wordsmoker. We love them; they are fun. Please???

    Now, I’m going to school you all and you’re going to flame me, but that’s okay because I feel strongly about this. And for God’s sake, this is not me bitching about Nimabu – a wonderful new commenter, because you’re all guilty of this. I entered the Gawker empire via Jezebel and I still read Jezebel every single day, along with Deadspin. The day Jezebel becomes the voice of reason, the place to go for logical discourse, and treats men and women equally, is the day I quit reading it.

    I yearn to join the torch-carrying masses in raging hysterically over the shitty treatment women receive in this world and I don’t want to spend a single moment thinking about how men have it bad. There are plenty of websites – zillions of websites – that give men a voice. This reminds me of the time I worked at Borders and some jackass was looking at the Women’s Studies section and smirked, “Where’s the men’s studies?” I was nearby, so I loudly replied, “The rest of the store, buddy, the rest of the store.”

    Please don’t call me irrational and a mrs. one note. I know that. It’s why I comment on Jezebel. I love being able to get my panties in a twist and scream down some unsuspecting fuck who dares try to bring logic into the equation during a heated argument. Jezebel is my go-to place to sob about being raped, bitch about people who don’t know shit about international adoption but dare to have an opinion, and in general, carry my feminazi flag high.

    You know what they say about pornography – if you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Please. Give me my sisters, all of us who’ve read “The Yellow Wallpaper” and worship at the altar of Bella Abzug. For the love of Kate Chopin, stop with the Jezebel bashing!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/blix/ Blix

    @ BJonston:
    I amused myself by the pompous belief that the site drew in a higher level of commenter. Then they let us “see” the grays. Omigod, it’s like that movie where Rowdy Roddy Piper got those special glasses.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86AAGZ9BBg

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/gerbilsinlove/ gerbilsinlove

    @ Mama Penguino:
    I used to comment over there, but I’ve been banned – twice – so even though they use my tips, they won’t unban me. I would love to give my piece of mind on occasion, but alas, tis not to be.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

    Mama Penguino wrote:

    The day Jezebel becomes the voice of reason, the place to go for logical discourse, and treats men and women equally, is the day I quit reading it.
    I yearn to join the torch-carrying masses in raging hysterically over the shitty treatment women receive in this world and I don’t want to spend a single moment thinking about how men have it bad.

    OK, this is TOTALLY not meant to be a flame, and if it feels that way to anyone, I’ll happily put my penis away and STFU, but look — I’d be fine with Jezebel if it was a bunch of bomb-throwing, man-hating, hairy-legged feminists denouncing the patriarchy in the strongest possible language. In my experiences of it, though, it’s just a lot of complaining about how reading fashion magazines make women feel bad about themselves, and therefore said magazines must be poured over every month and discussed in excruciating detail. Well, of COURSE fashion magazines make women feel bad about themselves — that is their entire raison d’etre! You wanna know how to make it stop? STOP READING FUCKING AMERICAN VOGUE!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    I never much cared for Jezebel.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    @ Blix:
    That movie was awesome. I remember it fondly. Thank you for the reminder.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    @ DieterTheMasseur: But if we stop looking at women’s magazines, we won’t be able to be super-pissed off about them! I’m only half-kidding here. We all know that the shit in women’s magazines is pervasive, pernicious and perpetrates poopy feelings about one’s self. Why not hold them up for public scrutiny by a plethora of angry women? I like to feel enraged! Do not deny me that, please!

    BJonston wrote:

    I never much cared for Jezebel.

    Jesus, I would hope not because it is not for you!

    God! My italics are certainly getting a work-out. And thank God someone finally came here to argue with me!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    @Mama P: Well, I have always considered myself a lesbian so I figured it might be up my alley. Clearly, I was wrong.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    @ DieterTheMasseur: Also, American Vogue really isn’t the problem here. I read it and find it pretty interesting, although I’m still pissed beyond belief that Stella McCartney’s husband gave her a fucking anniversary garden, for fuck’s sake. I hardly get a card! Anyway, it’s pretty hard to ignore women’s magazines – the kind that fuck us up – because they are quite literally everywhere. I’ve even noticed my 6 yr old looking at the covers at the grocery store. Do I think they ought not to be out there? No. Am I going to have to work overtime to try to help her realize that her own body is just fine the way it is regardless of what she sees in magazines? Probably not, because she’s naturally petite and muscular being the genetic result of two clearly attractive people (that is, NOT me and Mr. P). Still.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    BJonston wrote:

    @Mama P: Well, I have always considered myself a lesbian so I figured it might be up my alley. Clearly, I was wrong.

    Honey, the lesbians at Jezebel want nothing to do with you. I, on the other hand, would sleep with you in a new york minute.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/blix/ Blix

    @ Mama Penguino:
    Jean Kilbourne has written and lectured on the evils of Women’s fashion advertising extensively. Killing Us Softly is a series of lectures that is an eye-opener. After reading Can’t Buy My Love Vanity Fair was suddenly full of pornography (and not in a good way; so that’s why their lips are always slightly parted).

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Mama Penguino wrote:

    @ Nimabu: Welcome!!! I’m going to pretend to be the welcome wagon lady and ask, no beg, you to write a 20 Things for Wordsmoker. We love them; they are fun. Please???

    Now, I’m going to school you all and you’re going to flame me, but that’s okay because I feel strongly about this. And for God’s sake, this is not me bitching about Nimabu – a wonderful new commenter, because you’re all guilty of this. I entered the Gawker empire via Jezebel and I still read Jezebel every single day, along with Deadspin. The day Jezebel becomes the voice of reason, the place to go for logical discourse, and treats men and women equally, is the day I quit reading it.

    I yearn to join the torch-carrying masses in raging hysterically over the shitty treatment women receive in this world and I don’t want to spend a single moment thinking about how men have it bad. There are plenty of websites – zillions of websites – that give men a voice. This reminds me of the time I worked at Borders and some jackass was looking at the Women’s Studies section and smirked, “Where’s the men’s studies?” I was nearby, so I loudly replied, “The rest of the store, buddy, the rest of the store.”

    Please don’t call me irrational and a mrs. one note. I know that. It’s why I comment on Jezebel. I love being able to get my panties in a twist and scream down some unsuspecting fuck who dares try to bring logic into the equation during a heated argument. Jezebel is my go-to place to sob about being raped, bitch about people who don’t know shit about international adoption but dare to have an opinion, and in general, carry my feminazi flag high.

    You know what they say about pornography – if you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Please. Give me my sisters, all of us who’ve read “The Yellow Wallpaper” and worship at the altar of Bella Abzug. For the love of Kate Chopin, stop with the Jezebel bashing!

    My son … the one who is pushing 41 rather severely, not the teenager who is sitting in the living room watching videos right now … was a Jezebel reader who got me into commenting for Gawker. This was four years ago when I complained to him about not having intelligent online friends. He said “there’s this site, Gawker” and that was the beginning of my involvement.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    I get irritated that most of the commenters on Jezebel never want to send me full nudes.

    Mama Penguino wrote:

    This reminds me of the time I worked at Borders and some jackass was looking at the Women’s Studies section and smirked, “Where’s the men’s studies?” I was nearby, so I loudly replied, “The rest of the store, buddy, the rest of the store.”

    Should I tell my dear sweet great aunt to stay the fuck out of the Arts and Crafts section?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/blix/ Blix

    @ Chillbear Latrigue:
    I always thought the women’s studies section was where they kept the cookbooks.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/gerbilsinlove/ gerbilsinlove

    What got me about Jezebel is that is mostly very young women just discovering their womanhood or feminist powers. Older women like me who have a great deal of realist wisdom to impart are automatically reamed out and told that we are being patronizing when we call them out on bullshit. Truth is, with age does come wisdom,and frankly, a lot of what they consider earth-shaking right now they won’t blink at later. And the groupthink mentality leaves very little to no room for discourse or opinion. I occasionally check the site, but I got over it about two years ago when rules about commenting changed and any mention or criticism of the site or the thought processes obliterated the chance for any difference of opinion. I was actually banned this second time for a comment I made on Gawker that dared to pass judgement on Jezebel. I’m too old for that shit or being told what I don’t know or shouldn’t comment on by a bunch of 20-something power-hungry bloggers. Feck ‘em all, bunch of shiteous babies. And Gawker itself is now unreadable, which means I’ll have more time to come here and bitch, lucky people! WOOT.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    gerbilsinlove wrote:

    What got me about Jezebel is that is mostly very young women just discovering their womanhood or feminist powers. Older women like me who have a great deal of realist wisdom to impart are automatically reamed out and told that we are being patronizing when we call them out on bullshit. Truth is, with age does come wisdom,and frankly, a lot of what they consider earth-shaking right now they won’t blink at later. And the groupthink mentality leaves very little to no room for discourse or opinion. I occasionally check the site, but I got over it about two years ago when rules about commenting changed and any mention or criticism of the site or the thought processes obliterated the chance for any difference of opinion. I was actually banned this second time for a comment I made on Gawker that dared to pass judgement on Jezebel. I’m too old for that shit or being told what I don’t know or shouldn’t comment on by a bunch of 20-something power-hungry bloggers. Feck ‘em all, bunch of shiteous babies. And Gawker itself is now unreadable, which means I’ll have more time to come here and bitch, lucky people! WOOT.

    I wonder how many of these kids just discovering their feminist powers can relate to the gestalt around Columbia in the 70s where a man who held a door for a woman did so at his own peril, and God forbid he held a door for a black woman.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    @ Blix: After our encounter in Huntsville and our book club for 2, there’s nothing you can say that will make me argue with you. Whenever I think about you or see your name on a comment, everything around me goes into soft-focus and I feel all dreamy and happy. ♪ Blix-y! ♪ How I love you, how I love you! ♫

    @ Chillbear Latrigue: Yeah, tell your old auntie to get the F out of the arts & crafts section. Those books on needlepoint and ribbon embroidery are for men! Bluestockings beware!

    @ gerbilsinlove: Did someone call for a shiteous baby? There’s nothing – nothing – you can say about Jezebel that’s going to make me want to stop going there for my daily dose of Sisterhood is Powerful. Nothing! I agree with you that we’re older and have bushels of wisdom and reason and life experiences to share, but fuck that shit. I can get that almost anywhere. There’s something raw and lovely to behold in a young woman’s call for the end of the patriarchy. It’s like being an old bag with a six-year-old kid. It keeps me young in my head even when the knee is about to go.

    Don’t you remember hating hearing middle-aged women talk about how once you got older you’d understand how people have to share and listen to each other and put up with blah blah blah and you wanted to just shout at them and tell them NEVER, YOU SELL-OUT!!!!!!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Just to refine my earlier comment about the new Gawker sucking, I think it looks pretty good, actually. It looks good. It just isn’t for me anymore. The caliber of the commenters has descended to HuffPo levels. Oh well, it was something I needed three or four years ago. It did its part in my life.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    @ gerbilsinlove: BTW, I love you and nothing you say about me, Jezebel and me in conjunction with Jezebel, my enjoyment of Jezebel and my comments on or about Jezebel, will stop me from loving you. Don’t stop believin’. Hold on to the feelin’.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    @Mama P: Well, the way I see it, there’s something raw and lovely to behold in a young woman’s anything.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    If only we had integrated the store sooner!

    Borders Files For Bankruptcy

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/nimabu/ Nimabu

    @ Mama Penguino:

    Just to clarify, the reason I think Jezebel is hypocritical at times, is because the writers put stuff up that just BEGS to be criticized, but if you dare say something out of line, they come wielding their pitchforks. Also, the writers sometimes like stirring shit up with the commenters, and then start destarring people left and right. I guess Gawker does the same thing, but they seem to tolerate a bit more.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/nimabu/ Nimabu

    GRRRRR, typo!!! *think

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    @ Nimabu: Here at Wordsmoker, you only have to wish your mistakes away and it will be so. It’s quite utopian.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/nimabu/ Nimabu

    @ Chillbear Latrigue:

    Damn, Borders filing for bankruptcy really freaks me out. I love paper books, and am holding out on getting an e-reader for as long as I can. Can you still use those 40% off coupons, or are gift cards the only thing rendered useless after their filing?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Nimabu wrote:

    GRRRRR, typo!!! *think

    Typos are humanizing.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/renesance/ Rene Sance

    The latest new low in Gawkerland: Someone actually commented, “First.” Whether or not they were really first is impossible to say with the new format, where up is down and replies are directed randomly.

    It was a starred commenter.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/blix/ Blix

    @ Rene Sance:
    Oh my God, it’s full of stars.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    @ Nimabu: You are absolutely right. I don’t disagree one bit and I know the place is Frustrationsville for most thinking people, which is why I understand why so many people are annoyed by it/them/us. I liken it to The Onion and enjoy almost everything about it. BTW, I saw one of your comments yesterday on Gawker and it was more intelligent and interesting than 99% of the crap on there, so if you’re not a starred commenter, it’s because you deserve a planet! ♥

    As for Borders Book Shop, Music, Movies, Coffee, and Other Crap, I’m sorry to report I’m old-school Borders – I worked there when people still knew it was a couple of brothers from Ann Arbor whose last name was Borders and we had great books and the majority of the people working there as clerks had tons of higher education and an honest love of books and got to help order for their sections to keep it current, blah blah blah. I left about a year after the coffee showed up and now when I walk into my beloved store at 91st & Metcalf Avenue in Overland Park, KS (suburb of KC), I am shocked, utterly shocked. A few books, sure, but trinkets, toys, movies out your ass, a little music, crap crap crap. Goodbye, Borders, and fuck off while you’re at it. I knew the minute they hired some pinhead mall bookstore jackass to manage our store that we were headed downhill fast. And here’s my public acknowledgement that YES, shitty general manager, I AM THE ONE WHO THREW ALL THE 30% OFF STICKERS IN THE DUMPSTER. You were ruining the covers of my books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    Stars are overrated.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/members/nimabu/ Nimabu

    @ Mama Penguino:

    Lol, last time I went to a Borders was to buy the latest Franzen novel with the corresponding 50% off coupon. They do have a lot of crap, but I sometimes wonder if the majority of people who cry out “the book is dead, e-books are the future” are ‘real’ readers. I’ve seen a couple of people waving around their ipads and kindles, acting all intellectual and believing themselves to be quite the literati, when they actually have a kindle or ipad full of Grisham novels. One of those people actually made fun of me for reading a novel called ‘Enduring Love’, he thought it was one of those heaving bosom novels.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    Nothing wrong with a heaving bosom.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/gerbilsinlove/ gerbilsinlove

    @ Mama Penguino
    I love you, too, sweets, and see your devotion as charming. It’s just not for me as much, anymore, although I do check in once in a while and they have used some of my tips lately that I thought were appropos to thier site.
    Gawker, on the other hand, it too much of a jungle for me now, and I don’t have the patience to wade through the crap.

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