Let’s All Comment About Commenting

December 29, 2010 in Wordsmoker Commenting

Wordsmoker LogoHello. I’ve got a lot of new bits of code I can throw at this place now, and one of the things I want to get really cool is the commenting system. So let’s have a bit discussion about it and while we do it I can screw around with how the commenting works and we can all come to a happy compromise involving the type of group sex you can only see blurred-out-for-the-sake-of-sanity on PornTube. I can’t say fairer than that.

I quite like the way it is right now. That is – now, the time you’re actually reading this and thinking about moaning about it. At the moment comments will only nest one deep – the first reply will be lower and slightly to one side. After that, to reply to the original comment, or to reply to a comment under the original comment, you’ll need to click “REPLY” to join that thread. If you want to address someone other than the original commenter, you’ll need to (at the moment) click on the original comment, then refer to the other commenter by typing “@TheirName”.

Simple?

I’ve seen it work, honestly.

But – just like the pro-lifers say – there are options!

Things To Remember

If we “nest” comments more than one deep (as they are now) a lot of the comment text gets pushed over to the right-hand side and it hurts the letters, as they enjoy personal space too, it’s not just you.

If we don’t “nest” comments at all, I can install other magic things. You can get a “Reply” link and a “Quote” link, and when you do click either of them it will automatically do that, and do a “@TheirName” thing – the only thing is, it kinda lands the code in your comment box and might look slightly untidy.

But – just like the Eskimos say – it’s up to you!

NOW DISCUSS.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    First!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    Oh – I’ve just installed “Comment Rating” The little buttons under each comment? You can like or dislike each comment if you want. Nobody will know who likes or dislikes their comment, so that’s cool.

    The most “Liked” comments will appear somewhere. I dunno. I’m making this up as I go along.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

      The most rated comments might now be appearing for a while. But you can still see how many people liked or disliked a comment.

      I’m open on all of this, btw. If you think rating is a bad idea, speak up.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

      I’ve just uninstalled comment rating as it crashed the server.

      It wasn’t that good anyway, and who are we to judge?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

      The comment rating will actually help the Smokies a lot, since no amount of begging ever results in a significant amount of nominations. That’s probably a thought that didn’t need to be typed out, but I wanted to try this thing.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

      Okey, I just noticed the part about commenting being shut off because it crashed into a server or something. Whatever, screw it. I seem to be the only one who liked it anyway.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/sarahheartburn/ SarahHeartburn

    Make it easier to embed videos, photos?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

      Noted!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    Just a test comment again. All I’m doing is testing creme brulee to see if diacritics are applied.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

      It is. Cool.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

    We have a facebook; I’d hate to see this site turned into a mini-me facebook. Likes, dislikes, who’s online, when they were last active seem to me to be beside the point of WS. They’re also stalker-ish.
    Do I need to know that (insert name here) was active x minutes ago?
    I do love the Jesus-is-a-commin’ Sky banner, though. I’d say it bodes well for Mama P’s marriage if I didn’t know she’s Jewish. Do we all get to go to heaven?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/sarahheartburn/ SarahHeartburn

      Totally agree with Breakfast. No Fex-booky type whatcha doin type functions. I do like preview option, hope it stays.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

      Do you not even care about the convenience of the Smokie writers? You people really are callous.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

      What’s with the “friends” thing? I can go to my account and see that I have 1 friend then go to CBear’s account and see his adoring masses–and see who they are. What is the purpose of this–Virus, is this a move to make the site more of a more social-network?
      If the friending bit stays I suggest that it would be much better all ’round if we can’t see other people’s friends. I’m equally unclear on the purpose of groups. Is it for things such as Book Fights? Or is this another social network feature?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

      Yes, the preview option did prevent a lot of typos, so I too hope it stays–I don’t see it around here yet.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/sarahheartburn/ SarahHeartburn

    And what’s with all the hyphens in the commenst? I didn’t put them here.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/uncivily-obedient-2-2/ uncivilly obedient

    I agree that the ‘like’ button would be bad idea, if people are going to judge your thoughts let them spell it out. It’s more conducive to conversation.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/uncivily-obedient-2-2/ uncivilly obedient

      Please rate the above comment on a scale from 1 to 10, with 1 being, ‘Brilliant’ and 10 being, ‘Brilliant.’

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/uncivily-obedient-2-2/ uncivilly obedient

    Also, I really like my new avatar.

    I needed to make some changes in my life and my avatar on a website is as good as place as any to begin and end.

    (In case you’re wondering, it is the first photograph ever to capture a human. It is chilling.)

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/uncivily-obedient-2-2/ uncivilly obedient

      You know what would be really good: a delete button. I’d like to have the option to either delete or edit past comments.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

      I disagree with deleting past comments; we get into pretty decent debates around here, and I’d hate for a deleted comment to suddenly render a part of the thread incomprehensible. I agree with editing (makes us look smarter if we can change “vestibule” to “table”), but maybe with an edit time stamp so that if it is in a debate, there can be no chances for dishonesty.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/uncivily-obedient-2-2/ uncivilly obedient

      @MRD – good points, I agree with you.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    In reference to the tag, I don’t like Gawker’s overly complicated expand-contract, show-only-starred-commenters system. I like the single nesting. I was excited to see that we had it as a feature. The other things sound nice, but I don’t want to give this up to get those. Just my opinion.

    Also, I like this comment.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

      I vote for single nesting too. It keeps threads clean and keeps new comments from being lost.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/kausaustralisandsaturn/ Worthless Emo

      I also agree

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misspeacock/ MissPeacock

    I demand emoticons. Millions and MILLIONS of animated emoticons!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dahlelama/ DahlELama

    Looks good to me! And I second the demand for emoticons. I really just don’t feel like =< )> really gets across what I want to say. (I mean, yes, I know it’s obvious that I’m expressing that Lenin has returned as a snowman and is gleefully contemplating eating your babies, but I’m not sure I can really convey the EMOTION behind it without animation.)

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unfun/ Unfun

    I have no idea what is going on!!!!!!!!!

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unfun/ Unfun

      And after I put that comment I got a blank screen instead of bringing me back here.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

      Oh stop moaning – you broke it.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unfun/ Unfun

      @Virus: Oh noes! Spank me!

      Did I do this right? Let’s see where it brings me now…I don’t like that white netherworld of blankness…

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unfun/ Unfun

      IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It brought me back here, I fixed it! You’re welcome.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/jamaica007/ jamaica007

    Hmmn, the layout as it stands looks fine and functions well. Nested one deep is sufficient to keep it esthetically pleasing. Like or Dislike there is no need since there is a comment section perhaps? Is this not about speaking, pardon, expressions of thoughts and ideas on a digital platform?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/lipsticklibrarian/ LipstickLibrarian

    ♪ Let’s all comment on comments,
    let’s all comment on comments,
    let’s all comment on comments,
    to get ourselves a treat. ♪

  • http://wordsmoker.com/ BookishLookish

    I lost my Marilyn Reading av. Sadness.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

      Did you save it? I just reloaded my penguin sock puppet. Jesus. I can’t believe I just wrote that sentence.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky
    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/uncivily-obedient-2-2/ uncivilly obedient

      BookishL: when you upload the pic MRD located it will allow you to crop it down to size.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

      I can rent you a temp: call me.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/nodebutante/ NoDebutante

    I like the new comment layout and the ability to reply to a specific comment. I especially like the people who’ve friended me but don’t see that as a necessary feature, especially not if it’s too much like FB or Gawker. I don’t like seeing who is on at every moment or how long it has been since they were last on – feels too stalkerish.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/ Latterday Lenin

    I vote for no comment nesting. I like it where the newest comment is always at the bottom, simple as that.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

      Will comment nesting make it easier or harder to follow a debate? That’s the real question, at least for me. As long as I can keep track of comments and be able to reply to someone neatly, the nesting isn’t an issue to me.

      In regards to showing whether someone is online, I find that useful only in regards to chatting. Are we going to keep Chatzy, or are we scrapping it because no one uses it. If not, then will there be something to take its place? Otherwise, knowing who is on and who is isn’t seems kind of pointless.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

      I did not mean to reply to you. >.>

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unfun/ Unfun

      Agreement.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/katekate/ katekate is squared

    WHO ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/belltolls/ Belltolls

      I enjoy the nesting. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/lipsticklibrarian/ LipstickLibrarian

      Bells: I wish there was a “Like” button, because I like your comment but don’t particularly have anything more to add to the conversation and so would rather express my approval by clicking a small thumbs-up or heart or erect penis icon.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

    Is there any way of getting some sort of auto refresh on threads? Helps when we’re live blogging, or it’s just an interesting thread in general. Also, keeps me from looking like an ass when I ask a question that was answered in the lull before I click the refresh button.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/kausaustralisandsaturn/ Worthless Emo

    Great job Virus,
    now we can all sit around and slit the wrists of the website into deep long gashes of pessimistic gossip. <3

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/kausaustralisandsaturn/ Worthless Emo

      I guess I needed a new profile picture anyways

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    I demand that you people use avatars. I can’t tell who it is that’s online. Besides all of this change is upsetting my delicate constitution.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/belltolls/ Belltolls

      Yeah, everybody. And damn good ones too!

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/lipsticklibrarian/ LipstickLibrarian

      I just can’t take seriously any commenter without one, on any site.

      It’s like they have no face. It’s disconcerting, as I imagine talking to a person with no face would be. Though if they’re faceless, I suppose they’d be lipless as well, and therefore unable to speak. They’d stand there flapping their jaws and flopping their tongue around, spritzing your lapel with a surprisingly fine sprinkling of faceless person spit.

      Like I said, disconcerting.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

      @Lipstick: Kinda like ?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

      Okay, please, PLEASE bring back the preview. I would have avoided making myself look like a dumb little clam just now*.

      *Dedicated to Bookish.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

    Wait, people. We’re getting so wrapped up in the details here that we’re losing sight of the big picture. Didn’t we all agree that there were going to be more otters and boobies? I’ve seen the otter, but where are the boobies? WHERE ARE THE BOOBIES, PEOPLE?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

      You first. Someone needs to check out the the new, improved boobies feature. No one’s looking; go ahead.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/militantrubberducky/ MilitantRubberDucky

      My avatar has partial boob, does that count?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/unfun/ Unfun

    I don’t like the friending feature. And no it’s not because only one person has friended me, it’s not that at all. Really.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

      Ditto. And that’s not my reason either. Really.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

      The only reason I have a lot of friends is that I friended everyone who I saw commented recently. I really universally like everyone on this site (I can’t say the same for Gawker).

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/ninahagen/ Nina Hagen

    I have no friends and I am still hungry.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bjonston/ BJonston

    Flundermonkies! This is awesome.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/mama-penguino-2-2-2/ Mama Penguino

    I am friending like a motherfucker out of fear and anxiety.

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/nodebutante/ NoDebutante

      This may be my favorite comment ever, Mama P!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    I can’t understand 90% of this. Angry Birds has taken over my brain.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

    Hey, rereading the comments on another post, it occurred to me to ask: could WS promise us a rose garden, Virus?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    Oh, okay, getting the idea of this now. It’s very cool, ignoring the fact that my screen name has four uses of the letter “e” and no “I” and that one can’t upload an avatar from an iPad, the device currently stapled to my left forearm. I’m working on that.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/weegees_bored/ Weegee\’s Bored

    For that matter, no backslash either. Weegee’s Bored.

    Oui. Jesus.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

    OOOOOHHhhhhh. LOVE the multiple featured posts which are not, I see, called featured posts anymore. Still, great fade work, and FUN.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

    Bring back the PREVIEW, please. Please! Please?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

    And, before the caffeine wears off: gotta love the “cancel friend” option. Can we get some sound effects to go with that?

    • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

      Let’s start with Ross. I always hated him.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/fishnetsandcigarettes/ Fishnets & Cigarettes

    I can’t read through them all, but i love nesting. Can we get some spooning going on, too?