Project Runway’s Tim Gunn: I Tried to Persuade ‘Crack Smoking’ Judges to Crown Mondo the Winner (Updated)

November 1, 2010 in television

Here’s a bit of news that’s sure to interest Project Runway fans — especially those who are still angry that the much-disliked Gretchen Jones was crowned Season 8 champion over the much-loved Mondo Guerra. Apparently, Tim Gunn — like most of the show’s viewers — thought Mondo deserved to win, and tried to persuade judges Michael Kors and Nina Garcia to change their votes and give Mondo the victory.

Although none of this has been reported anywhere as far as I can tell, these facts are revealed by Gunn himself in a video that was posted on Youtube over the weekend.

The video shows Tim Gunn speaking in Q&A session during a Kate Spade promotional event in King of Prussia, PA, which took place shortly after the final episode aired. [Update: We have since learned that this video was filmed by Blogging Project Runway's creative director, "The Scarlett" — see other videos posted here.] Gunn tells the audience that, when the judges were deadlocked over whether Mondo or Gretchen would win, judge Heidi Klum persuaded Tim Gunn (who is not on the show’s judging panel) to join her in trying to persuade Kors and Garcia — who favored Gretchen — to vote for Mondo instead. View Gunn’s description of what happened in the Youtube clip linked here:

Here are a few highlights of what Gunn reveals in the clip:

  • When the show’s judging panel was deadlocked, Klum asked Gunn what his opinion was. When she learned that he agreed with her that Mondo should win, she asked him to join her in appealing directly to Garcia and Kors in favor of crowning him the winner. Subsequently, Gunn reports, “I went with Heidi and we made quite a case for our candidate.”
  • At the time, Klum was upset with Gunn about a quote of  his, published in the L.A. Times, about “crack smoking judges” — a reference to how much he disagreed with many of the judging panel’s decisions this season. When the two agreed on the Mondo question, Gunn reports that Klum asked him, “Can you remove my crack-smoker badge?” Gunn responded, “Yes, because Nina and Michael are smoking enough for all of us!”
  • Gunn wraps up by offering this final, “oh well” take on the judges’ decision: “Mondo will do fabulously anyway, and Gretchen really needs the money.”

Many of the shows fans, however, are not so resigned and philosophical about the season’s outcome — which shocked most viewers because Mondo was not only very popular, but also heavily favored to win. On blogs and message boards across the Internet, angry fans who feel Mondo was robbed have been cursing the decision and swearing off the show.  And Kors and Garcia — for the moment, at least — have suddenly become two of the most disliked characters on reality television.

But that’s what they get for choosing to ignore Tim Gunn’s advice — a decision which, apparently, spells trouble for designers and judges alike.

[11/2/10 Update: I've discovered another video of Tim answering the same question at the same event ... but this clip is longer, and contains the original question plus a bit more of the beginning of Tim's answer:

At the beginning of this version, Tim says that he's "still speechless" about the decision, which was made back on September 9 (but wasn't broadcast until last week). He also prefaces the whole discussion by saying: "Nobody's gonna be happy that I'm giving you this back story, but I can't help myself!" Heh.]

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/dieterthemasseur/ DieterTheMasseur

    I wish they HAD been smoking crack. Were that the case, a) it would explain the horrible decision to reward Wretched Gretchen’s general passive aggression and outlet-mall design, and b) perhaps Michael K. could lose a little bit of that extra weight. I mean, he’d still be orange, but it would be a start.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misterhippity/ MisterHippity

    This is a Wordsmoker exclusive – a scoop!

    I think it is, anyway … After much Googling and checking around the Internet, I can’t find these comments by Tim Gunn reported anywhere — which surprises me, since he made them two days ago. But he was speaking at a shopping mall, so I guess nobody noticed.

    I saw this video, by the way, linked with a series of clips on the “Blogging Project Runway” blog — but that site didn’t report on any of these comments; they just posted the videos without much commentary. (Here.)

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/chillbearlatrigue/ Chillbear Latrigue

    @Hip: I’m billing it as an exclusive. If we’re sued, it’s still free publicity. Win/win except for the enormous settlement that Virus might have to pay.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/katekate/ katekate is squared

    Tim’s exactly right, though. Mondo didn’t need the win and Gretchen really did. Her shit will be in TJ Maxx in 2 years, tops, and he’ll be designing for big names for the rest of his career. At least this’ll get her out of the hole financially, hopefully.

    That said, Nina Garcia and Michael Kors are horrendously out of touch with what real, actual people are interested in wearing.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/senorwences/ Senor Wences

    Is everybody aware that all the Lou Grants are available on Hulu? You can just sit there, and watch Lou Grant, and there’s no better way to spend your time. I mean, come on, shut up. Ed Asner! Lou Grant!

    This is a great episode, in which we come to realize that Animal has some issues with his work as a photographer of the Vietnam War, a Vietnam wartime photographer, and he has flashbacks, from the experiences he had, while photographing the war, because they weren’t fun, those experiences he had, taking photos of the war. We learn a lot about Animal, in this one. He goes to the zoo and has flashbacks because the animals are too Vietnamese.

    A lot of veterans issues are explored in this, so it’s important for America. Lou befriends a vet who is down on his luck, and tries to help him out, even giving him a job weeding his yard though the vet is a funky street negro who gives Lou a hard time initially in a black way! They get to bonding and Lou is given food for thought when they compare WWII and Vietnam coming home experiences. Lou was never called a baby burner and spit upon! Lou really thinks about this, and thinks there’s a story there. That’s what’s great about Lou Grant. He really learns from the people he meets.

    And, anyway, also, my other point is, and the one I’m really getting at, is that a character, an official at the VA, says this, at one point: “I do not believe a Vietnam veteran is different than any other kind of veteran. Except maybe more of a crybaby.”

    Hahahahaha! Awesome! Lou Grant SCORE! This show is full of shit like that. (Seriously, don’t get me started on the Hare Krishna episode, or the wife beating episode…good god, the wife beating episode is the apex of everything you’ve ever known, felt, or imagined.)

    See, because, what I’m saying is that if Tim Gunn says something like that that, I’ll watch his show. It would be so good if Tim Gunn would just go ahead and say that. If he looks at some designer’s camouflage patterned thingie and says, all nose in the air, “I do not believe a Vietnam veteran is different than any other kind of veteran. Except maybe more of a crybaby.”

    If he did, I’d watch all the live long day, like I do with Lou Grant, as everyone should. Just watch Lou Grant. Just do it. It’s all you need.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/senorwences/ Senor Wences

  • http://wordsmoker.com misslinda

    @KK2: Wretchen dug her own hole and it’s not PR’s job to dig her out of it. Yeah yeah, sad that her significant other dumped her and cleared out the bank account, but she picked him or her and probably treated the poor thing awfully, so now what, Mondo has to pay for it? How the judges reached their decision seemed as crappy as the bargain bin sale rack rejects Gretchen sent down the runway. The fact that Mondo will do great without the win is all the more reason to hand him the giant oversized check. I really wanted to see what he would do with a thousand dollars, but that’s not going to happen, so the best he can hope for is to scrape together some financing on his own to start a clothing line (good luck in this economy) or get a job working for another designer, but then the clothes won’t exactly be “Mondo.” Grrrr, cannot believe I’m still pissed off at the people on my teevee.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misterhippity/ MisterHippity

    @Wences: I like the episode where Lou Grant ties a shitload of balloons to his house and takes off for Peru … and then finds out that Animal is hiding in a closet. And then he’s like, “Oh man, Animal … what are YOU doing here?”

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/gerbilsinlove/ gerbilsinlove

    MisterHippity: Good to see you here! I like you because you featured one of my quotes in your weekly roundup and it boosted my self-esteem greatly! You’re a really good dude!

    Wretchen’s granny panties were heinous and stoopid – right on par with her Mullet of Doom. Mondo will be fine, but I hate the thought of Wretchen getting all that money and then getting to go on a talk show tour, dragging along her obviously chagrined model/muse, who was forced to wear the Southwestern Granny Panties in public, where everyone could see them. Imagine the outfits Mondo would have worn on Regis & Kelly or The Today Show – the hot pants, the tyrolean hats, the Das Bierhaus suspenders! Glorious!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misterhippity/ MisterHippity

    Well, this story has now traveled from this Wordsmoker post to New York Magazine’s Vulture blog — and from there, to Entertainment Weekly’s Popwatch blog.

    The Vulture blog picked up this story in this post:

    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/tim_gunn_was_enlisted_by_heidi.html

    You’ll see that the vulture post has a link to this Wordsmoker post at the bottom.

    From there, EW.com linked to the Vulture story, and ran this piece:

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/11/02/project-runway-tim-gunn-gretchen-gate/

    So Wordsmoker is now feeding news to the mainstream entertainment media! (Very slowly, it seems …)

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misterhippity/ MisterHippity

    @Gerbils: Thanks! Glad you’re part of the live blogs – your comments are great!

    Don’t know if you watch Top Chef, but a new season (and live blog) starts Dec. 1.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/korainhell/ korainhell

    Congrats Hippity for the scoop!

    For the record I thought Andy should have won.

    (Always the contrarian.)

    Also, what a shock that the fashion editor and the one ACTUAL designer didn’t fall sway to the pressure from model, the crazy actress who thinks vaccines cause autism, and the imperious professor manque.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/katekate/ katekate is squared

    Did Jessica Simpson jump on the “vaccines cause autism” bandwagon, too? I thought there was only room for one vapid blonde there.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/korainhell/ korainhell

    I got Jessica Simpson confused with Jenny McCarthy. Never mind.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/korainhell/ korainhell

    RE: Jessica Simpson and Jenny McCarthy. Can someone explain the difference between the two of them and why one of them was judging the PR finale? Surely there at least one former PR contestant available for a few days of judging?

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misspeacock/ MissPeacock

    Hippity, congratulations on the scoop! I am SO excited and happy for you!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/irishbreakfast/ irishbreakfast

    Hi Hippity! And yay on the scoop. If Tim Gunn would only bitch-slap any any of the judges I would go to my grave a happy woman. Yes, my priorites are fucked.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/bpr/ BPR

    Thank you very much for featuring our video on your site.

    Our own Creative Director “The Scarlett” filmed the Q&A of Tim Gunn from the front row at the mall event and posted the videos to Blogging Project Runway the same day (October 30.)

    Of course you are most welcome to share our original content and to promote our site.

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/viruswithshoes/ VirusWithShoes

    @BPR: Anything we can do to help you folks out, we will. And thanks!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misterhippity/ MisterHippity

    Dear Blogging Project Ruwnay (BPR):

    Forgive me, but I didn’t know that your site’s Creative Director — or anyone from your blog — filmed the Q&A. On Youtube pages for each video, that is not made clear: the videos are all marked as uploaded by “HaverfordMom” (Not “Scarlett” or “Blogging Project Runway”). And the descriptions on Youtube under each video say nothing about your site, or who took the videos.

    Now that I know what you’ve stated above, I will add a note to that effect to the post – I wish I’d known sooner.

    I like your blog, and I’m sorry to have inadvertently slighted you folks for credit in any way!

  • http://wordsmoker.com/help/members-3/misterhippity/ MisterHippity

    @BPR: I have added the following line (with links) to the post:

    [Update: We have since learned that this video was filmed by Blogging Project Runway's creative director, "The Scarlett" — see other videos posted here.]

  • http://www.tobacco-facts.net/ Eva Fancy

    The fact that Mondo will do great without the win is all the more reason to hand him the giant oversized check. I really wanted to see what he would do with a thousand dollars, but that’s not going to happen, so the best he can hope for is to scrape together some financing on his own to start a clothing line (good luck in this economy) or get a job working for another designer